Sunday, November 04, 2007

'Sunk costs' and the war.


Bush falls victim to a bad new argument for the Iraq war.


By Barry Schwartz
Slate

In recent speeches, President Bush has offered several reasons for staying the course in Iraq. One of them is the almost 2,000 Americans who have already died in the war. "We owe them something," the president said on Aug. 22. "We will finish the task that they gave their lives for."

Psychologists, decision scientists, and economists have a name for this type of argument: the "sunk-cost fallacy." It has gotten the United States into trouble once before. As casualties mounted in Vietnam in the 1960s, it became more and more difficult to withdraw, because war supporters insisted that withdrawal would cheapen the lives of those who had already sacrificed. We "owed" it to the dead and wounded to "stay the course." We could not let them "die in vain." What staying the course produced was perhaps 250,000 more dead and wounded.

Here are a few more trivial examples of the sunk-cost fallacy:

You have good tickets to a basketball game an hour drive away. There's a blizzard raging outside, and the game is being televised. You can sit warm and safe at home by a roaring fire and watch it on TV, or you can bundle up, dig out your car, and go to the game. What do you do?

You've ordered too much food at the restaurant and there you are, completely stuffed, with a pile of pasta sitting on your plate. Do you clean your plate or not?

In each of these cases, the money is gone. Do you "waste" it, or do you go to the game, and finish your pasta? It is claimed by economists and psychologists that the right way to approach questions like these is only by looking to the future. Since the money is spent no matter what you do, the only real question you should be asking is what will give you more satisfaction—watching the game by a roaring fire or sliding to it in a blizzard; leaving the restaurant feeling content or leaving it feeling stuffed. The "sunk costs" are sunk whatever your decision; only the future matters. The fallacy in thinking about sunk costs is precisely that people feel compelled to get their "money's worth," even if it makes them suffer.

The sunk-cost fallacy appears in contexts less mundane than wasted food or basketball tickets. You've invested several million dollars to develop a new product only to be scooped by your competitor, whose version is cheaper and better than yours will be. Do you go on with the development nonetheless? You are two-thirds through a research project when a report of an almost identical project appears in the relevant journal. Do you finish your study or abandon it?

And the sunk-cost fallacy appears in the most consequential of contexts, where injury and death, and not just money or effort, are at stake. Which brings us back to Iraq. How do we honor the sacrifices of those who have died or suffered serious injury in an American conflict? The best way to show how much we respect and value their lives is by refraining from sacrificing other lives in their name unless future prospects fully justify putting more people in harm's way. The lives of those who died are a sunk cost—one that is much higher than any of our treasure. But their lives can not be reclaimed. Their injuries can not be undone. If our assessment of a military situation is that we are unlikely to be successful, or that the likely price of success in lost lives is too high, then we must change course. What we owe those who have already suffered is enough reverence for life that we won't send others to suffer after them in order to justify their own suffering.

To acknowledge sunk costs and change course need not be an admission of foolishness or even failure. One can think through a problem in the right way, and formulate a wise course of action, only to discover that it doesn't work out. The world is an uncertain place, and good decisions do not guarantee good results (just as bad decisions don't guarantee bad results). But a reason people are seduced by the sunk-cost fallacy is that investments of time, money, or lives on ventures that do not work out feel like failures. They feel like a waste. And people seem willing to waste even more (time, money, or lives) to justify what has already been spent and avoid that sick feeling of failure.

I am not suggesting here that we should "declare victory and leave" Iraq. I am not suggesting that the only justification currently being offered for continued involvement in Iraq is the "sunk cost" in American lives. I am not suggesting that obligations from the past should never enter into one's consideration about the future.

My suggestion here is modest: You may justify the Iraq occupation in many ways—perhaps you think it will prevent further terror, democratize the Middle East, or restrain Iran—but it is unacceptable to justify it on the grounds that we "owe" it to those who have already fallen. That is a justification that no one should be allowed to get away with. But it is a justification that is coming increasingly to the fore, usually implicitly but sometimes explicitly, as other arguments about staying the course in Iraq become less and less compelling. Whatever the differences may be between Iraq in 2005 and Vietnam in 1968, if we allow policy makers to use our "sunk costs"—our dead soldiers—to justify further conflict, we will have turned Iraq into another Vietnam. And if we do, we will be shamed by Iraq just as we were shamed by Vietnam.

50 comments:

Anonymous said...

Danielle V. 1st

I agree with Mr. Schwartz. Yes, the fact that soldiers have already lost their lives is a good reason to stay in Iraq, but there should be more than that. We need to worry about whats best for our country, and remember the initial reason for going over there.

Anonymous said...

Logic fallacies are so prevelent in our day and time. Until I read this article, I had not realized the fallacy of the arguement used so often, but it is so true. If someone has done something that cannot be undone, how could suffering further justify the decision. In truth, you are really just punishing yourself for your decision. Your decision, however, was made with limited knowlegde. It was made to the best of your ability, given what you knew. Therefore, if you realize your decision was bad, the most logical thing to do is change courses. It would be foolish to continue on a bad course just because you had spent so much time and effort on it.

Whitley C. -1st

Anonymous said...

I think people should plan before they act. Sometimes people put so much effort into something to find out that it really wasnt worth the money and time spent on it. But sometimes it is worth it, but the only way to find out is to test it and see for yourself.

Kaley M. (5)

Anonymous said...

I agree that the decisions from the past shouldn't have too much infkuence on our future ones. However, if we do not look back and live with the future only, it may bring even more losses.
Marta Gabler 2nd

Anonymous said...

Erin F. 1st

I think that the "we owe them" excuse has been somewhat abused. That should not be our only reason for staying in Iraq, This is not rational thinking for a country in our situation. It seems like we are over seas more for bush's security than the welfare of the country. It sounds as though the government is trying to find any reason to stay in the war, we all know they have alterior motives. This is way to fishy for my taste.

Anonymous said...

I think that we should stay in Iraq. One reason being that soldiers have already lost their lives and another is that we need to finish what we started.
Petra B. 5th

Anonymous said...

Blake Whitmire, 5th

Its actually quite simple really, we started something so we must finish it. That is the only justification there is or should be. It doesn't necessarily doesn't have to be finished through militant forces (actually I'm sure most would prefere that it wasn't), it just must be completed through some means.

Anonymous said...

Justin N. 2nd Period

I don't think we should stay in Iraq just because soldiers have already lost their lives. Yes, they died, but that is not rational thinking. Just because some people lost thier lives, doesn't mean that more people should. Yes, we made a mistake. Why should we stay there to make more?

Anonymous said...

Laura B. 5th
I think it is interesting that Iraq is being compared to Vietnam. Isn't there some reason for studying history? Like learn from past mistakes so we don't repeat them? Somehow I think this has been forgotten by some of our President's advisors. I do think this in an interesting point about justification; it has to be just as the name implies...

Anonymous said...

I don't understand how you could compare our fallen men to pasta and a basketball game...but whatever creates the picture i guess. I'm not sure if losing more lives makes up for the loss of the already dead, but I do think we should finished the monster we have created.

Kaci P. 5th

Anonymous said...

Nichole C. 1st
I do agree that America does need to have better justification for staying in the war in Iraq. I do find it interesting that Iraq is being compared to Vietnam, but it does point out factual truth about staying in a war just for the fallen soldiers. Are people willing to sacrifice more soldiers on the basis of the people who are already gone. I do believe that we need to stabalize Iraq by staying there, but the government needs to present better justification.

Anonymous said...

Nichole C. 1st
I do agree that America does need to have better justification for staying in the war in Iraq. I do find it interesting that Iraq is being compared to Vietnam, but it does point out factual truth about staying in a war just for the fallen soldiers. Are people willing to sacrifice more soldiers on the basis of the people who are already gone. I do believe that we need to stabalize Iraq by staying there, but the government needs to present better justification.

Anonymous said...

that excuse is just playing into people's stubborn state of mind. Most people are very stubborn and if you give the exuse to be stubborn they're going to be. i think we need to concentrated on just what would be the best for the country and not go with just justifying our actions by coming up with excuses
Mindy Orr 5th

Anonymous said...

I think that since so many people have lost their lives and so much has gone into the war that we need to stay over there untill we finished what we started and untill we have accomplished our goal for going over there in the first place.

Shannon H. 2nd

Anonymous said...

Jennifer S-5th

This article stinks like an old sock on a hot day. Barry Schwartz is focusing on only one of the reasons that Bush is still supporting the war and is tearing this reason apart piece by piece in order to make Bush seem as foolish as the basketball game and pasta examples. If he is going to make a valid argument, then he needs some sort of citation that supports this idea and he needs to investigate more of the reasons for staying in the war.

Anonymous said...

"Sunk-cost" is not THE reason to stay. it is just one reason to stay and finish the job.
We must be more "American" and finish the job. it is in the best interest of our country... and most countries.

Anonymous said...

No matter what anyone has to say about the war in Iraq we must stay. It's not about some stupid fallacy it's about combatting terrorism and making our country a safer place. We can't just go to war and back out like we already did in Desert Storm. These people need help and by us helping them were also helping our country.

Landon Hogle

1st

Anonymous said...

Brittney Oliver 5th

Regardless of your reason, a opinion is an opinion. Bush happens to have the determining opinion. Whether you agree with his reasons and decisions or not, you should support your country. Those people need our help, and we need to make America a safer place. The only way to do that is to stay and finish what we started. Agree or disagree, you need to back your country.

Anonymous said...

tyler L. 5th

recently osama bin laden released a tap that showed that america was winning the war. in the tap he said that al queda was losing and needed more support from the peoplee of syria and jordan.
if the u.s. stays in iraq they have a better chance of winning than if we left. also, losing this war would be a major blow to the image of us as the world's superpower.

Anonymous said...

jb m pd2
we should not be able to justify the continued occupation of Iraq just because soldiers have died there previously. you do not owe it to the dead soldiers to continue fighting and kill more soldiers if that is your only arguement.

Anonymous said...

I agree that we should look to the future, but if we ignore our mistakes from the past they will repeat themselves. I also agree that "the best way to show how much we respect and value their lives is by refraining from sacrificing other lives in their name unless future prospects fully justify putting more people in harm's way."

Madison S. 5th

Anonymous said...

Bennett W. 5th

Have the soldiers lives been in vein, and do we need to stay in Iraq to make it worth while? Was the war ever worth winning in the first place? The goal of invading Afghanistan and Iraq was to kill terrorists. Get real though, were the tens of thousands of dead Afghans and Iraqis really a direct threat to the United States? Then if we withdraw are have the soldiers died for nothing? The administration seems to have no end in sight with the war in Iraq. I don't believe it is a war we can win but I wouldn't say that the soldiers deaths have been in vein. There numbers have woken up people to the terrible nature of war and the corruptness of government. So even if we don't win the war they haven't died for nothing.

Anonymous said...

Derek D.2

We should desensitize it to soldier's dieing for our ignorance...right.I think its odd that all these people call for the end of the war and talk about the soliders deaths and what not but in actuallity all the soldiers support the war. We say we have lost to many lives but these lives have been willingly given in service to us. There is no draft. These soldiers lives are not comparable to the ones in vietnam. no one asks the soldiers. Maybe we should show them some respect by not argueing what to do with them, as if they were pawns in a team chess match.

Anonymous said...

I think that despite the majority being against Bush's decision to stay in the war we should remember one thing.. and that is that no matter whether his decisions are deemed as "right" or "wrong" he is still the president and for that reason should get the respect of a nation. I can see how past affairs can be reasoning to leave but if we don't finish what we've started, then everything that we are fighting to defeat, wins.

Bethany R. - 2nd

Anonymous said...

Allen J. 1st

I believe the war cannot be "won," per se, at anytime in the near future. No matter what we do there, one faction of the population will insist that we are doing good while another insists we are destroying the lives of those people as well as ourselves. Because of these two warring factions, we will never be able to conclude on one side or the other. What we should try to do is find a compromise such as taking the pasta home or trying to sell the tickets to someone else in the examples.

Anonymous said...

I think that no matter what happens we should always look to our past mistakes and learn from them. If the "sunk-cost" fallacy caused us this much harm in the past with Vietnam, then there is no justification for using it now.

Anonymous said...

I think that no matter what happens we should always look to our past mistakes and learn from them. If the "sunk-cost" fallacy caused us this much harm in the past with Vietnam, then there is no justification for using it now.

Michael Moffitt - 2nd

P.S. that one above is mine i forgot to put my name on it.

Anonymous said...

I think that no matter what happens we should always look to our past mistakes and learn from them. If the "sunk-cost" fallacy caused us this much harm in the past with Vietnam, then there is no justification for using it now.

Michael Moffitt - 2nd

P.S. that one above is mine i forgot to put my name on it.

Anonymous said...

It seems highly irrational when broken down this way that people go beyond the means of satisfaction to receive the utmost benefits of their investment.. Maybe it is even a defensive mechanism when you think about it, how people just are so scared of loss they will drive themselves to absurd measures just to avoid it. This explains much of our psychological functions as we are overly concerned with putting ourselves "out there," being too vulnerable. Are we constantly on the defense in that case? Are we just simple minded self-centered penny-pincher's? I mean, it makes sense, everyone wants to have more and the way to do that is to not give away more but idk.. I wouldn't eat the whole plate.. I'd Styrofoam box it and save it for later (even though I HATE Styrofoam and it is one of the sole evils of the world!!!! ugh.. you non biodegradable heathen, you!)

Kayla H. 5th

Anonymous said...

I believe that if we were to just pull out of Iraq right now, the country would just turn on itself. So, in this situation, I agree with Bethany. The president does have a little more insight into the matter than the general public does, and he does have the nation's best interests at hand, so frankly, I think we need to just trust him and let him do his job.

Sarah H. - 1st

Anonymous said...

Brittany Hoffman 5th
I understand the fact that we feel like we "owe" it to the soldiers who have lost their lives and I agree with that, but at the same time we have to do whats best for the country. We have to learn from our past mistakes so that we dont dig ourselves into a hole AGAIN.

Anonymous said...

I think we should pull out, however, it would have to be a peaceful move. The people would most likely not know what to do with out us causing an uproar. Those soldiers that died still mean something even if we do not stay in Iraq.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^Tiffany G. 1st oops

Anonymous said...

Betsy E. 2nd

I respect the fact that this author (while being clearly against the war) chooses not to attack the people in favor of the war but simply one of the arguments used by them. I think that gives him credibility. This article isn't really about the being anti or pro war, it's an analysis of an argument.

Anonymous said...

Alexa Daniel 2nd

The comparison to Vietnam seems more accurate in this article than in many others. I believe we should watch out for people using this "sunk-cost fallacy," because it not at all a good argument for staying in the war. The author brings to question a frequently used argument and accurately asses its invalidity in a refreshing way, by attacking the argument and not the people who use it.

Anonymous said...

Thank you! I hate it when a politician does this kind of thing. I haven't heard it as the "sunk cost fallacy" but this article is right. It doesn't make sense to see a huge problem in the past and using that as a justification to continue.

Chris C
1st

Anonymous said...

I don't think we should use the "sunk costs" excuse.

And I don't think we have a real reason to be there right now anyways.

Eric R - 2nd

Anonymous said...

The "sunk cost" fallacy is not an acceptable reason to stay in war. People going to Iraq willingly endanger themselves. We should always respect and honor those who have fallen in Iraq, but staying in war could just lead to more dead soldiers.

Melissa C. 2nd

Anonymous said...

Matthew K. 1st

Simply put, sunk cost bad. Marginal analysis good. Weighting the costs vs. the benefits would seem like the much more logical way to approach a situation that could possibly cripple an entire country's infrastructure. Maybe we (in "we" I mean Bush)should start putting our pride aside, however much effect it has on our country's W-L record.
Im not proposing that we should either "quit" or "keep pushing", I do, however, propose the idea of letting the people govern themselves. Just a thought.

Anonymous said...

I don't like the sunk cost excuse and probable don't really have a reason to be there

Tanner S. 2nd

Anonymous said...

the " skunk cost " is the biggest load of poo if ever heard. this is one of the only times that im disappointed in Bush sorry to say

Marcus Lowry
2nd

Anonymous said...

Clayton Patterson 2

I think that we should definately stay in Iraq and finish the job. We have to learn from our past mistakes in history.

Anonymous said...

Taylor P. 1st

I don't agree at all with this egotistical and ignorant state of mind that Bush seems to encapsulate. He is awfully proud of himself which in effect disrupts his ability to run the country. This further proves his pernicious perception of war and his ability to ignore his advisors and his people.

Anonymous said...

emily howard 5th period


i think we should stay in iraq and finish what we started with the war and all....

Anonymous said...

I dont believe in the sunk-cost fallacy because one of the best signs of someone who is wise is to know when their in to deep.

Matt S 5

Anonymous said...

This article has a point. On the other hand, I think we should finish what we started, and not necessarily because of the lives already lost. If we leave now, someone just as bad as Sadaam could topple the new government and rise to power. The reason Hitler got so far is because nobody did anything about it until it was almost too late. We need to be careful not to make the same mistake in other dealings with leaders hostile to freedom.
Lauren R. 5th

Anonymous said...

I agree with this article. We need to get out of this war. We are talking about our soilder's lives. We aren't going to let them die in vain by leaving. Yes, we started it. Don't we all see it as totally pointless?
Kim L. (1)

Anonymous said...

Dalton Fuss 2nd
Many soldiers have died, yes; and if we are thinking totally economically these deaths would be a reason to retreat and accept defeat. According to this author we don’t “owe them [the dead soldiers]” anything… but don’t we? He says fighting for them is a fallacy. But why? When did fighting for a fallen comrade, fellow American, and friend become a fallacy? Tell me... if we are not fighting for each other, what are we fighting for?

Anonymous said...

This is the argument for getting into a war.
How many Americans should die before we declare war on another country? Is it never worth it?
What do the headlines tell you to believe?

Anonymous said...

We were not "Shamed by Vietnam". We were shamed by weak-kneed liberals and wishy washy moderates that can't thnk for themselves.